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Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis by J.D. Vance
The book received ratings between a 4.0 and 5.0. The average rating was 4.33.
Many members have stated they are not nonfiction readers and with that in mind, they stated they were not looking forward to this memoir. Some members thought the story would be too depressing to read. Once the members starting reading, they couldn’t put the book down. The members found Vance’s story both enlightening and engaging. For many members, this journey was unfamiliar and therefore interesting and informative. Life-long learners found this to be engaging new information. Several other members were looking forward to reading this memoir, as it had been on their personal reading list for some time.
Several members have Scots-Irish backgrounds, so they were able to connect with the culture on some level. These members also shared positive contributions and stories from this culture. The members felt this memoir used accessible language and they thought this could be required reading for high school students.
One member read an editorial from a high school classmate who has continued to live in the same small town in Iowa for the past fifty years. His letter to the editor documents the decline of this particular small town and the lack of opportunities available. This is a document of the phenomena entitled “brain drain.” Brain drain happens when educated, career-oriented people leave small towns, never to return.
One member stated that Hillbilly Elegy was an interesting perspective from a young author, but she would like to see a memoir from Vance in thirty-five years from now. She wonders how his individual perspective would shift.
One member complimented Vance in that he was not pompous in his rise out of poverty, but generously gave credit to all the people who assisted him on this journey.
One member reflected on her immigration to the US and the US growing pains of past generations. This member was hopeful for the next generations and sees our current turmoil as a cycle of growing pains all generations of people must go through to achieve a better future outcome.
Many members agreed the problems addressed in the memoir are not easily solved. One member thought more people should follow John F. Kennedy’s advice, “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” This member felt personal contributions and efforts towards problems are a must.
- The group discussed the way the Appalachian culture described in Hillbilly Elegy is a culture in crisis. The author suggests that unemployment and addiction are self-inflicted and often the culture promotes “learned helplessness.” The group contrasted this previous part of the round-table discussion with thoughts about the criticism received about Hillbilly Elegy, which includes accusations of Vance “blaming the victim” rather than providing a sound analysis of the structural issues left unaddressed by the government. Continued discussion at this point addressed the positive values imparted by this loyal culture.
- Discussion about Vance’s personal escape from the cycle of addiction and poverty. We discussed the role Vance’s mother and her addiction played in the life of the author. Also, we reflected on the violence displayed by her parents and the effect this had on her life. Discussion led to the reasons why the American Dream seems elusive for many Americans. The group discussed poverty as a nationwide epidemic and the cycle of generational poverty.
Sadly, we discussed the drug epidemic facing America and the effects this had on Vance and those in his community.
Facilitator passed around the current TIME magazine (February 22, 2018) which via photography documents the drug epidemic faced in America. The entire magazine is devoted to the crisis which is entitled The Opioid Diaries. The worst addiction epidemic in America is currently claiming 64,000 lives per year.
Vance cites a report that states well over half of working-class people had suffered at least one adverse childhood experience (ACE), and over forty percent had experienced several (p. 226-7). We discussed the implications of ACEs for Vance and others, as well as, Vance’s eventual ability to break free from such a difficult childhood. We talked about what contributed to Vance’s successful transition and how these skills could be translated to others in similar circumstances.
- Fortunately, Vance was able to successfully navigate the Marines and eventually graduate from Yale Law School. On one level, Hillbilly Elegy recounts Vance’s socio-economic journey and although his income bracket has shifted, his identity remains tied to his working-class roots. In light of these factors, the members discussed whether it is possible to shift one’s identity from one social class to another. We discussed systems which discourage upward mobility and we brainstormed possible solutions.
- In the introduction, Vance provides various reasons for writing his memoir. The group discussed his reasons and the group was asked whether the book was more successful as a memoir, or as a cultural analysis.
- J. D. Vance has been interviewed by many media outlets to assist in explaining the results of the 2016 election. Members discussed whether there are challenges in using one individual’s experience to explain larger social shifts.
J. D. Vance’s TED talk on America’s forgotten working class
Peter Robinson interviews J. D. Vance for the Hoover Institution
J. D. Vance interview with Megyn Kelly
Amy Chua was J.D. Vance’s Yale Law School advisor and she encouraged him to write Hillbilly Elegy. Amy Chua was the best-selling author of Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother and her newest book, Political Tribes: Group Instinct and the Fate of Nations, offers a prescription for reversing our foreign policy failures.
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Last month, Books and Bagels discussed Nobody’s Fool and Everybody’s Fool by Richard Russo. It was interesting to see the parallels between these fictional novels and the memoir, Hillbilly Elegy. The erosion of small towns across America is a theme in both of these writings. It is fascinating to witness the interplay of entirely separate and different works.